September 2007 Interview with Marjorie Ann Whitesell Chittum By Isabelle Chewning [Items enclosed in brackets [ ] are not on the audio, but are editorial notes inserted for clarification] January 2008 Continued Interview with Marjorie Ann Whitesell Chittum Chewning: Today is January the 17th. My name is Isabelle Chewning, and I'm back to re-interview Marjorie Ann Whitesell Chittum. Can you just tell me your name so we'll see if it's picking up your voice? Marjorie Chittum: Oh. Marjorie Ann, I was Whitesell now Chittum. Marjorie Ann Whitesell Chittum. Chewning: Mrs. Chittum had some great stories that she told me after we turned the tape off another time and then also at my house, so I wanted to see if I could get her to recount some of those great stories, again, on tape. And we were just talking about a family in Brownsburg that I hadn't heard very much about before, the Carter family. Could you tell me where they lived, and... Marjorie Chittum: Okay. The Carters were a black family, and Mr. Carter, his name was Press. It was Preston, but everybody called him Press, and his wife's name was Hallie. And the boys were a lot older than I was, yeah, I think even older than John Layton [Whitesell], probably. I know they were. And one of them was Sam, and one was Roger, and Albert, and then Hunter was the youngest. And Roger lived in Staunton, and it was really odd when our son, Doug, was in high school in Staunton, it was after the schools were integrated, and he came home one day and he said, "Mom, there's the nicest boy in my class, and he said his daddy's from Brownsburg." And I said, "Well, who is it?" And he said, "Well, his name's the same as mine. His name's Doug Carter. And he says he lives here in Staunton." And I said, "What's his daddy's name?" And so then Doug didn't know. So the next day he asked him and he said his name was Roger. And so I said, "Yeah. I know. He lived just two houses below us." So then Doug Carter went back to tell his daddy that he knew somebody from Brownsburg. So he and Doug Carter, our son Doug and Doug Carter became really good friends. And Doug was a, Doug Carter, was a great big boy and a football player for Lee High, and then he went onto college and graduated. And he just retired, I think, last year I talked to him, maybe year before last, and he had retired from teaching. Said he was just going to take life easy now. Chewning: That's great. And where did the Carters live? Marjorie Chittum: The Carters lived the second house down from us, but that house has been torn down. It was a little house. A little, just a little frame house, very small, and it was between the house that, I think, maybe the people that I-- Mr. Tom Bosworth used to live there, but the last people I knew were the Frosts. It was between the Frost house [2690 Brownsburg Turnpike] and Letha Swisher's [Green’s] house [2682 Brownsburg Turnpike]. And it was just a little small house, and that's where those people lived. And a couple of those people, when my daddy was in the undertaking business, a couple of those boys worked for Daddy just kind of part time when he needed them. Chewning: What kind of work did they do? Marjorie Chittum: Well, when Daddy -- of course you know Daddy was a funeral director. And they would just do odd jobs like when caskets would come in, you know, they would help to unload them, or when they had to do cemetery work and go set up the chairs, and the tent, and take the lowering device and all that, helped just do that kind of. That's the only thing they did. They were really nice. And then Hunter was the youngest one. Well, Hallie raised-- she had two little grandchildren she raised there. The little girl I played with a lot, Hallie Mae. And then Hunter was the youngest boy. He was a really, really nice boy. And he married Isabel [Sites]. What was Isabel? Stevenson? Isabel Stevenson, that's who he married. And Hunter died really young, very young. It was very sad. People from Brownsburg really liked Hunter, but he died very young. I don't think they even had any children. And then Isabel's sister's name was Dora, and she married Dan Franklin. And she worked for Dr. Joe and Mrs. Williams for years and years and years. And was just like one of their family in fact. Chewning: Taking care of their children? Is that what she did? Marjorie Chittum: She took care of the children, and she did the cooking. She just did, as Mrs. Williams said, "She just did everything." She just did everything. She was with them in Brownsburg, and then she moved down here [to Staunton] with them and they lived -- the first place they lived was on Selma Boulevard. And then my stepfather, Hugh McNutt built the Williams' house over in the other end of town, and Dora was over there with them all those years. And she was just with them until she was not able to be of any help anymore. She had, I think she had arthritis and just was not well. So she didn't work full time, but she went everyday. I mean, she just lived -- she just was one of them, really. She came everyday. Chewning: What did Hunter [Carter] die of that he died so young? Marjorie Chittum: You know, now I don't remember that. I don't remember why, what was wrong with Hunter. I know he was very young. He was a really nice looking black boy, and though he was just such a nice -- I really didn’t know the older ones that well, but I knew Hunter and Albert better than the others. Because when the others were -- when I should have been knowing them I wasn't old enough too really -- I knew them, but I didn't know that much about them. Chewning: Uh-huh. They were more someone who worked for your dad than someone -- than your contemporaries. Marjorie Chittum: Yes. That's right. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But Hunter was the youngest, but he was really a nice person, really a nice person. And everybody just thought he and Isabel made such a nice couple. Chewning: I had asked Isabel [Sites] if I could interview her about her memories of Brownsburg and she said, "Oh, I don't really remember much. I lived there until I was six and then I moved to Bluefield, West Virginia and I remember more about Bluefield.” But she didn't want to be interviewed, I guess. Marjorie Chittum: Yeah. I didn't know, it was just, I think it was somebody else you asked me about when I knew them and I told you I just, it was just kind of they were always there, and I just don't have any recollection of exactly when Isabel and Dora showed up. But I know they were always together and they were really pretty girls, really. And really they just always looked so nice. And they were always -- had a happy -- they were just, just really friendly and nice girls, and everybody just thought Dora and Isabel were-- they were just really special. Chewning: When Isabel and Hunter got married then did they move out on the hill on Sterrett Road? Marjorie Chittum: You know, I just-- I believe they did, but I don't remember exactly where they lived. But I kind of think they did live over on that hill. I believe they did because I don't have any recollection. Chewning: Now, there's a Louis Carter who lives on Sterrett Road now. Do you know what his connection to that family would be? Marjorie Chittum: I don't know whether they had any children or not. I just-- I don't remember. It's -- some things are so vivid in my mind, and then some things are vague. I mean, people will say something about it, and I think, "Oh, yeah. I remember that," but then when I go to get into the detail of it, it won't come, you know. I just can't put it together. So I don't really know whether they had any children or not. I don't know because I don't even remember how long they were married. But I know when he died it was a real shock to Brownsburg that he had died so young, so young. Chewning: Was there a funeral in Brownsburg? Marjorie Chittum: Oh, I'm sure it was. I don't have any idea, but I'm sure it was. Chewning: I'm skipping around. Marjorie Chittum: That's okay. That's okay. Chewning: Just remembering the stories that I wanted to get on the tape. But you had told me a story about riding with Winifred Beard. Marjorie Chittum: Oh, uh-huh. Yeah. Winnie and I were really good friends. She was a year ahead of me in school, but we were really good friends. And the Beards really, at that time, I don't who lives up there now, maybe nobody does because I don't -- I've never heard of it, but they had a little swimming pool in their yard. And so I used to go out to Winnie's and get in the pool. But one Sunday afternoon, Mr. Beard had horses, and he was quite a horse person. I remember those riding pants that you wear. I remember those. And so Winnie asked him if we could ride the horses. And he said, "Sure." So he got them all saddled up. Well, I knew nothing about a horse because I'd never been on a horse. Maybe one time, I think, maybe. I think, maybe one time when I spent the -- I used to spend some time with Ruth Beard and Virginia [Whitesell], her sister, and they of course, Ruth, they were all riders. And they used to have horses up at Camp Maxwelton and another camp up there. I can't think of the name of it [Camp Okihawa]. And I rode a horse maybe one or two times, but I'd never ridden a horse. So Mr. Beard got the two horses all ready, and we rode out the road that goes from New Providence back to Pisgah. Not on the Pisgah Road, but just that side road. That's where we rode. And we were just riding along talking and we went-- oh, we'd gone out there, oh, almost, I guess, pretty much half way out there to where you get on that other road where Gene Buchanan lived [763 Hays Creek Road], and we turned the horses around and came back. And we got -- it was right along in there about where Linda Beard [Wood], where that house-- where they built that [1082 New Providence Road]. It was along in there. And the horse that I was on just flopped down in the road and it scared me to death. And I really think it scared Winnie too. But it just got down in the road and just kind of rolled, and it kept rolling its head around and all. And of course I was just screaming because I didn't know what was going on. And so Winnie said -- it wasn't very far, see from there to-- so Winnie said, "You stay here with the horse, and I'll ride to get Daddy." So that's what she did. That was the longest -- I don't know how ever many -- how long it took her, but it seemed like two days that I sat there beside of that horse a-rolling and a-groaning and a-carrying on. And Mr. Beard came, and he was so nice. He’d seen that -- and I was crying, and he said, "Now, you couldn't help it. Just don't think one thing about that now. Just don't worry about it." And so I must have been 16-17, 16 or something like that. And so he said, "Just don't worry about it." And he got the horse, got it up, and got it home, and I just worried, and worried and worried. And the next day Mr. Beard came and told me that -- he said, "Now, I have something to tell you, and before I tell you I don't want you upset over it because you couldn't help it." This was on a Sunday afternoon that we rode. And he said, "The horse died," but he said, "I didn't know it, but the horse was pregnant," and he said, "I didn't know that it would hurt." He knew that the horse was pregnant, but he said, "I didn't know that it would -- I knew you all wouldn't be riding it fast," you know, and he said, "It's just something happened and it had nothing to do with what you were doing." He was just so nice. But, anyway, he got that old horse up and got it back, but I have not been on a horse since, and don't plan on getting on one either. Because I really didn't -- I don't think I really wanted to be on that one, but Winnie wanted to go so I just said okay. I was game for it. Chewning: Well, I interviewed Richard Beard, and he told me that he and Ruth [Beard] used to always ride together in pairs classes at the horse shows. Marjorie Chittum: They probably did. They probably did. Chewning: That she was a good rider. Marjorie Chittum: Oh, yeah, she was. And they used to have those horse shows up there at the school on the school ground. Chewning: Ah, in Brownsburg? Marjorie Chittum: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. They had a couple. Oh, they had several of them up there on the red clay area beside of the stucco building. They had several horse shows up there. Chewning: Did you go? Marjorie Chittum: I went. That was later, you know, I believe that was -- maybe it was before I was married. I don't remember, but yeah, I went. They had a couple of them up there, I know. The Ruritans sponsored it, and see they didn't have that place up in Bustleburg then. Chewning: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Huh. Another thing I wanted you to help me clarify. I went and interviewed Virginia Bell Franklin and Eleanor Franklin Hawkins up in Washington. Eleanor lives in Maryland. And they were telling me where their grandparents lived. And I was confused about that. Marjorie Chittum: I wonder who their grandparents were. Chewning: Well, they said -- they talked about -- you had talked about Mary Stuart Lotts living, I think, on the Raphine Road, and they said their grandparents, the Franklins... Marjorie Chittum: Oh, I know who. I know. Uh-huh, I know... Chewning: I was thinking that the Lotts and the Franklin grandparents had lived closer to New Providence, but... Marjorie Chittum: No, no. Now, it all comes back to me. That is what I was telling you. Sometimes I can't get it. When you say something it brings it all back. Aunt Ann and Uncle Jim Lotts -- I don't know who lives in that house now, but as soon as you turn to go down the Raphine Road from the Brownsburg Turnpike the first driveway you go in [Harvest Lane], the house sits way back in there, and I don't know whether that's the same house, or they've torn it down, or added on or what. But that's where Grandma Dudley's brother, Jim, and his wife Ann lived. Chewning: And their name was Lotts? Marjorie Chittum: Their name was Mr. and Mrs. Jim Lotts, uh-huh. And he had bees. He was a beekeeper, kept honey bees and fixed honey, made honey and sold it and that kind of stuff. And the Franklins then lived up just the next house. I think -- is there a Runkle lives in that house now? Chewning: Well, there's a relatively new house there, a brick house [158 Raphine Road]. Marjorie Chittum: Brick house, okay, that's where the Franklin house was. And as well as I remember that house was kind of a dark red house. I believe it was a dark red house. And so his name was John Franklin. I think his name... Chewning: And I think she said the mother's name was-- her grandmother's name was Mary Jane. Marjorie Chittum: It could've been. It could've been. I have heard of a Mary Jane. I know they had a daughter named Janie. So her mother probably was, but they had a daughter. One of those girls was Janie Franklin. And then they had one and he lived in Staunton. And after Earl and I were married, and moved to Staunton I saw him, talked to him a couple of times. His name was Moffatt [ph?], Moffatt Franklin. And that sister's name was Janie Bell, I think that's what they called her. Chewning: And they would have been Zack's brother and sister. Marjorie Chittum: Brothers and sisters, I think. I think that's who they were. I think that's who they were. Chewning: And they said that their grandfather was sexton for the church, New Providence Church, or that he worked at the church. Marjorie Chittum: He could have. Now I don't-- that I don't have any recollection of that. The first person that I can associate with being a sexton there is Jess Lotts. Chewning: And what relationship is Jess then too your uncle Lotts who lived [on Raphine Road] -- was he related to them at all? Marjorie Chittum: I think some cousins or something, but I don't know. There were several different families of them and they were some kin like Don Firebaugh’s mother was not very much kin. Where Don was kin is on his grandmother's side. Don's grandmother was my grandmother's daughter -- I mean, my grandmother's sister's daughter. See that's the way that kin came in on our side, not on the Lotts side. They probably were some kin. Jess and Mary lived -- and I think that little house is still there, at the church on the bank. Chewning: Okay. That's how I got confused, I guess. Marjorie Chittum: Yeah. Is it a brick house? Chewning: There's a little mini-- we call it the mini-manse up close to the cemetery. Marjorie Chittum: And that's brick. Chewning: Uh-huh. Marjorie Chittum: Well, now the -- actually where Jess and Mary lived when he was sexton there early on, that house was yellow. It was a little yellow house that sat on that bank. Then it seems to me like later on they built that other one back there and maybe tore that first one down. But when Mary -- she was Lamb. His first wife was a Lamb, Mary Lamb, and they didn't have any children. They didn't have any children. And it was after Mary died that Jess married Mary Stuart. Chewning: Okay. Okay, so both his wives were named Mary. Marjorie Chittum: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Chewning: You're clearing up a lot of confusion for me here. [Laugh] Marjorie Chittum: Yeah. Yeah. The first wife was just Mary, and then the second wife was Mary Stuart, and she was a lot younger. Chewning: And she was a seamstress. Marjorie Chittum: No. Uh-huh. That's another Mary. Aunt Ann and Uncle Jim raised Mary Stuart and her brother Henry. They were Coffeys. They were kin to Aunt Ann on her side. I don't know whether it was her sister's children, but they weren't Lotts at all. They were Coffeys, Mary Stuart Coffey. I believe his name was Henry, Mary Stuart and Henry. He was about John Layton's [Whitesell] age. And I think he died. He lived in Roanoke, a really nice fellow. But Mary, the seamstress, she was -- her name was Lotts. I don't know what Lotts. Chewning: And she made your clothes? Marjorie Chittum: Uh-huh, she made my -- yeah, she made my clothes because at that time -- I wouldn't tell this to everybody. I'd just tell it to the world, that anybody who knows me. [Laugh] I was so fat that Mother couldn't buy clothes because back then they didn't have these chubbies like they do now. And I was just as broad as I was long, and so Mother would get this awful looking material and have my clothes made. And I'll show you a picture of one of them before you go. And they were all button down the front. And they were all just -- some of them had a collar on them, but most of them were just plain neck and had rickrack on them which I don't think -- I don't whether you can even buy that any more. But anyway, that was a sore subject because I had to have all those homemade clothes because I couldn't -- and I wasn't willing to quit eating, and still I'm not! So Mary sewed for everybody up there. Chewning: And is this Mary, Jess' first wife, or is it somebody different? [Laugh] Marjorie Chittum: Lotts. No, it's somebody different. Mary, Aunt Ann and Uncle Jim raised her too, and she was some kin to Aunt Ann. I don't know how. I don't know. It seems to me like, Isabelle, that Aunt Ann might have been a Plogger, and Mary was some of that people, some of that people. But she lived there with -- in that house, Aunt Ann and Uncle Jim lived, Mary the seamstress, Mary Stuart, John Henry, brothers and sisters. Chewning: And their last name was Coffey. Marjorie Chittum: Coffey. And Miss Mary Lou Wilson. Now, I'm not sure, but I think, I think that that house maybe was Miss Mary Lou Wilson's and I believe Aunt Ann and Uncle Jim had gone there to take care of her. She had epilepsy. Back in those days it was just like you say -- now you say a mental institution. They're mentally sick, back then you said “in the asylum.” They used to say they had epileptic fits, you know, but Miss Mary had epilepsy. And she carded wool a lot. I mean, she'd just sit at that window. I can remember going out there and just sit at that window and just card that wool. She was the sweetest little lady, small. Just her voice was real soft and she'd just -- and I've seen her go into one of those. I've seen her go in, and she'd just be sitting there carding and all at once she'd just get real stiff and then she'd just fall out of the chair. And they would get her up and put her in the bed, and she'd sleep a number of hours and then she was okay. And she didn't have them every day, but she had them quite often. Closer to when she died she had them pretty often. I remember one time, talking about that brings back another memory. Frances Wiseman, we called her Jude, we walked out there one day. We used to walk a lot up there. And so she and I walked out there, and Jude was a real timid little girl. And Lou [Wiseman Stuart] and I used to tease her. She wanted to play basketball, but if the ball got near her then she'd go [makes squeaking noise]. She was so scared because she was so tiny. And we walked out there. We hadn't been there just a little bit until Miss Mary Lou had one of those spells. And I'm telling you Jude just went into hysterics. She just -- I just -- I thought she was going to have one! She didn't know what was going on. I don't why I hadn't thought to tell her that she might have one and it was okay, but like I told you earlier, it's on me because I'm not afraid of anything, but she was so scared because Miss Mary Lou had that epilepsy spell. But no, and so Mary was the seamstress and she sewed for everybody, she sewed for Frances Martin and Frances Belle, her daughter. Well, everybody up around there, that's what she did. And then she moved to Staunton, and she worked at Leggetts in the basement in the material that kind of stuff. She moved down here. And she married and her -- she had two children. And the daughter graduated with Doug, and she has worked at Mrs. Rowe’s [Restaurant] for years and years and years. She takes your money, cash register. Sheila, really nice little girl, Sheila, not a little girl because she's the age of Doug, she's 54-years-old. Chewning: Oh, that's young! [Laugh] Marjorie Chittum: Yeah. It is to me too now. [Laugh] Chewning: Well, Eleanor Franklin Hawkins told me that Mary the seamstress offered to help her to learn how to sew, and she said for whatever reason, she just didn't do it and has regretted it ever since that she didn't take that opportunity to learn how to sew from Mary. Marjorie Chittum: Yeah. Looking back on that, of course as I was growing up and Mother would go out there and take me, it didn't mean that much. But looking back on it in it was kind of a sad life. She had beautiful auburn hair, and she wore it in a knot on the back of her head. It was wavy around here. And she had sat at that sewing machine until the way she sat, you know, like this until it was hard for her to straighten up. You know, she just got in the habit of sitting like that. But she really had not much of a life. I guess, probably, when she left was when Aunt Ann and Uncle Jim died. And I remember them dying, but I don't remember which one died first at all, because they had one daughter, and she died real young with influenza. She died, I think I'm right on this, she died over there in Mrs. Morris' little hospital that she had where the Andersons live [2671 Brownsburg Turnpike]. And I think they really -- Aunt Ann really never got over that. They called her -- her name was Nellie, but they never did call her Nellie. They always called her Little Nellie, Little Nellie. And I think she must have been about 16 or 17 when she died of that, and Aunt Ann never really got over that. I think she died over there in that little hospital. But then Mary Stuart then married Jess after Mary died, Mary Stuart. As far as I know Mary Stuart hadn't gone – had never gone with anybody, but she married Jess, and then they had two girls, Emma and I can't think what the other one's name is. Chewning: I'm trying to remember some of the -- one of the other stories that you told me was about the boys in Brownsburg teasing Dr. [Tom] Bosworth. Marjorie Chittum: Yeah. They would -- Tommy [Bosworth] would come out there on the weekend, and I don't remember whether his wife was in college, or where -- I can't remember where Tommy went to college, maybe Hampden-Sydney. Chewning: I think he went to Hampden-Sydney. Marjorie Chittum: I believe it was Hampden-Sydney, and I guess that's where-- maybe that's where Stella went too. Chewning: Maybe she went to Longwood. Marjorie Chittum: She could have. Yeah. That's right. And they used to tease him because they sitting on the porch [2703 Brownsburg Turnpike]. You know, it was right there at that house, and the porch is gone now, but there was a real long porch there. And they used to sit out there on that porch, and the boys would holler. And her name was Stella. And she was a very attractive girl but, you know, they just wanted to tease Tommy because they knew it got close to him. And they would say -- they get up close enough where they could hear and they say something like, "Stella, Stella's got her feet in the cellar.” [Laugh] And Tommy would make them go on. And of course they would run. But, I mean, they were big teenagers then because I remember Tommy, and I remember when Stella would come out there. And I used to go down there and chitchat with them, you know, but those boys, they got -- the reason they did it they saw that it was really getting to Tommy because they'd hang around and watch him. You know, they'd be sitting in the swing or in the chairs and those boys would, "Stella, Stella, got her feet in the cellar." Chewning: Now, Mrs. Chittum, you also had pictures from your first grade class that you just showed me. Marjorie Chittum: Uh-huh. Chewning: Could you just look at the picture and tell me the names of the people that you remember that were in your class. Marjorie Chittum: I think I can do most of them. I may have written them on the back. Let's see. Margaret Ellen Withrow. She lived up there on the way to Lexington on [Route] 39. What did they call that? Hollow -- what is that Hollow? I've kind of forgotten. You turn left and go [Route] 39 almost into Lexington. She lived in that brick house on the right hand side [2121 Maury River Road]. And I used to stop and play with her when Mother would go to Lexington. I'd get out there and play with Margaret Ellen. And I saw her not long ago. I see her real often. And she lives in Staunton. Mary Frances Sandridge. That's Colonel's [Charles M. Sandridge] sister. She and I were the same age. And do you know Lucy Poole? Chewning: No. I don't think so. Marjorie Chittum: You know Charlie Poole? Chewning: Right. Uh-huh. Marjorie Chittum: Charlie's sister, Lucy. And she and Lucy were-- Lucy was in my class too, and she and Lucy were real good friends. And then, let's see, Judy Benson. She's the one that I told you lived out on the hill with Miss -- I wish I could bring that -- I know she wasn't married. Miss Something... Chewning: Where did she live? Marjorie Chittum: She lived where Dot Martin lived [4565 Brownsburg Turnpike]. Chewning: Oh, right, right. Marjorie Chittum: Miss Something. I can't think of it. And Mary Katherine Blackwell. Chewning: Oh, was in your class? Marjorie Chittum: Uh-huh, Mary Katherine Blackwell. Chewning: Oh, can I see her picture? I know her. Marjorie Chittum: Let's see if I can find her. I've got it written here, left to right. Let's see, Margaret Ellen [Withrow], Mary Frances [Sandridge], Tootsie [Margaret Wade Harris], Judy [Benson], Lucy [Poole], and Mary Katherine [Blackwell]. She's the last... [Repetitive information deleted] Okay, here's Mary Katherine right here on the end. Chewning: Oh, uh-huh. Marjorie Chittum: She was the tiniest little thing, just tiny, and just really, really tiny. Chewning: And who were Tootsie and Judy? Marjorie Chittum: Okay. Tootsie is Margaret Wade [Harris]. They lived where Doris Lunsford lives [2651 Brownsburg Turnpike]. And Doodie [Elizabeth Dunaway] lived in the house where the museum is [2716 Brownsburg Turnpike]. Chewning: What was her name? Marjorie Chittum: Elizabeth. Elizabeth Dunaway, and she's dead. And then I'm beside of her. And then what is that little girl I said I told you that I just loved her so much. I can't -- Mary Ann Nuckols. Yeah, Mary Ann Nuckols, and then Catherine [Carwell], and Estelle Buchanan, and Clare [Huffman]. Chewning: Who was Catherine? Marjorie Chittum: Catherine Carwell, [now] Catherine Robertson. She -- okay. And Irene-- what was that name? Irene Smith. She lived with, I think, Irene Smith lived with Mrs. Hattie Berry. She took children in at one time. Hattie, you know where they lived? Hattie Berry lived where the McManama girl lives [2580 Sterrett Road]. And she had a parrot. We used to love -- we'd go down there a bunch of us would go down there real often to hear the parrot talk. [Laugh] But the parrot didn't have a chance with Mrs. Hattie there! Chewning: Did she talk more? Marjorie Chittum: Yeah. She didn't have a chance. She was a nice lady. She loved kids, and Irene Smith, I think, lived with her. Her husband and Miss Pet's husband were brothers. Charlie Berry and I believe his name was John. I told you about Miss. Pet. Did I tell you about Miss Pet? Chewning: She worked for the doctor? Marjorie Chittum: Who? Chewning: Did Miss Pet work for the doctor? Marjorie Chittum: No. She didn't have but one leg. Chewning: Oh, okay. Oh, okay, okay. Marjorie Chittum: She lived where the post office is. There was a house there, and that's been torn down. And she sewed. Miss Pet sewed. She sat and the house was real close to the ground and the porch was almost right on the ground, and then it had an extension there where they -- in later years they rented it out to Miss Emma Mines. Miss Emma Mines lived in that little extended part of it. But Miss Pet sat at that window and sewed all the time. You could just walk by any time. And then she had flowers out there in front and she would -- she went out there and worked in her garden and lay that crutch down. People -- kids were scared of her because she really -- on those flowers, or even near them or anything she kind of thought she owned that sidewalk and all that. Lived right across from Dr. Joe [Williams]. Now, Mrs. Williams, we talked about it when Mrs. Williams was still able to talk about things. Mrs. Williams loved Miss Pet. She just loved Miss Pet. If Miss Pet liked you, you were good, but if she didn't, boy! But the kids were afraid, and they'd go down there they'd get on the other side and not walk on the walk, when they walked down because they were afraid she'd get after them with her crutch. Chewning: And her last name was Berry? Marjorie Chittum: Berry. Uh-huh. Mrs. Pet. She was a Lucas. Chewning: And was she a widow? Marjorie Chittum: She was Miss Pet Lucas is what -- everybody just called her Mrs. Pet. She was a Lucas, but she was married -- before she was married, but then she married Charlie Berry. Chewning: And then was she a widow when she was living there? Marjorie Chittum: I kind of believe she died first. I kind of believe she died first, yeah. Chewning: What did he [Charlie Berry] do? Marjorie Chittum: I'm really not sure he did anything! [Laugh] I don't ever remember him doing anything. I don't remember that, but they didn't have any children either. And Mrs. Hattie didn't have any children either. Chewning: So they took in foster children? Marjorie Chittum: I think, now, I think that's where Irene Smith lived was over there with Mrs. Hattie Berry. I believe that's where she lived. But I don't know whether they had any... She had-- her daughter lived on that road where you all live [Sterrett Road] before you get to your house on the left. It's the only house along in there other than where Boyd and Lou [Stuart] used to live [2640 Sterrett Road]. It's the other little house where Mrs .-- remember Mrs. Bessie was married to Beauford [Swisher]? In that house. Mrs. Hattie's daughter lived there, Octavia. Here name was Octavia -- who did she marry? Snider. Snider. Her husband -- I can't think of what her... Her husband was John Miley’s [Whitsell] wife, Joan. Octavia's husband was Joan's [Snider] daddy's brother, and they lived there. And they had Marian, and Estelle and Everett, kids. They all went to Brownsburg School. Marian is still living and Estelle and Everett are dead. Yeah, that's right. Chewning: You told me the names of the picture of the girls in your class. Can you tell me some of the boys too? They're in separate pictures. Marjorie Chittum: Oh, okay, the girls. The boys, they're in separate pictures, yeah. Okay, the boys are John Lee Thornton, he lived out in Pisgah. He's dead. Jimmy Sweet. He lived on the way to Lexington. That house has been torn down. That section there is called something Hollow, Wolf Hollow. Wolf Hollow. I couldn't think. Jimmy Sweet lived there, and he had sisters that went to Brownsburg, Winifred Sweet, and I can't think of the other girl's name. And Jimmy, I just thought Jimmy was the greatest little fellow that ever was. Jimmy, a little red haired fellow and he was just so -- I just thought Jimmy was great. Then there was a little Carter boy. He lived right as you get to the end of Brownsburg Turnpike [at Route 39] and you turn right to go Rockbridge Baths and left to go to Lexington. This little Carter boy lived in that little house directly in front of that. It was kind of down over the bank. [I remember them working on Carl Wiseman’s old car.] I don't think that house is there any more, either. And Jessie James. I was trying to think about him the other day when I found this picture. Jessie James. I cannot think who he lived with, but he -- I've got a question mark over him. I think he was maybe a welfare child too. And Bobby Grimm, I think he's dead. Bobby Grimm is Mattie and Osie Wade's [Supinger] nephew, and he lived with them up over the phone office. Chewning: Oh, a little boy lived up there with them. Marjorie Chittum: Uh-huh. He was in my class. He had a speech impediment -- he stuttered. And I saw him after he grew up, and I mean, years later, and I had no idea who he was. He didn't know who I was. And I asked somebody who that -- I think we were at an auction sale somewhere, and I asked them who that was and they said, "That's Bobby Grimm." And he had a brother Hugh Grimm. And I went over and spoke to him. He didn't know who I was. I said, "Well, I didn't know who you were either." And then Donald Firebaugh, and then George R. Buchanan is one, and that little boy beside of him I don't have him. Bobby Runkle, you know Bobby Runkle? Chewning: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Marjorie Chittum: They call him “High Pocket”. Chewning: Right. Marjorie Chittum: And Raymond Sweet. He's dead. They were from down at Newport on the right hand side just after you pass -- they used to call that place “The Cedars” on left. Just after you pass that on the right, Raymond lived there. His daddy had arthritis, was an invalid his whole life. And his sister, I talked to her just a couple months ago. Mary Stuart [Sweet] married one of the Hemps, Mary Stuart Hemp. Bruce Slusser, he was in my class. Bobby Runkle. Hintsel Engleman. Hintsel's daddy ran the store where the man who runs the antique shop, what's his name? Chewning: Dick Barnes. Marjorie Chittum: All right. Hintsel's daddy ran the store where Dick Barnes lives [8 Hays Creek Road]. Then that used to be the farm store. Hintsel's daddy ran that. And they moved up there from Stuarts Draft, and they moved back. And they lived in that house. And Hintsel died young. And then there, of course, there's my buddy, Elwood Weaver. That is the last one back there, that tall boy grinning. And let's see, Donald Firebaugh. Did I name him? Chewning: Uh-huh. Marjorie Chittum: Okay. I guess that's all of them. But that was a big -- I mean, Mrs. [Mollie Sue] Whipple had her hands full. Let me tell you. Chewning: That's quite a class. That's a big group. Marjorie Chittum: Now let's see. That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28 children. Chewning: Oh, my goodness. And what class? Was this first grade or second grade? Marjorie Chittum: First. Chewning: This was first grade. Marjorie Chittum: First, uh-huh. First grade. Chewning: That's quite a big group. Marjorie Chittum: There I am beside of Mary Ann Nuckols. Uh-huh, that's a big group of children. Chewning: And you said sometime Miss Trimmer would ask Mrs. Whipple to come and play the piano and then send a high school girl in to watch her class. Marjorie Chittum: Uh-huh. To take charge of her class. Chewning: To watch her class. Marjorie Chittum: Uh-huh. I guess Mrs. Whipple was probably the only person there that played the piano at the time. I can't think of anybody else that I ever remember. I know Mrs. Whipple played a lot for Glee Clubs, and even after I was in high school we had Glee Club. And I guess your daddy [Mc Sterrett] probably sang in the glee club. I'm sure he did. Chewning: I think he did. Marjorie Chittum: I'm sure he did. He ran around with a group of those boys too, Sam Patterson, and Carl Wiseman, Lou's brother Carl, and Boyd [Stuart] and all that. When your mom and -- when they were dating, and Ag and Ed [Patterson], and all that crew. It was a crew too! [Laugh] I remember them working on -- those boys coming over there when Lou [Wiseman Stuart] and them lived beside of us. Carl had this little old -- Lou probably told you about that. His car he called Elizabeth. I think it was something Elizabeth, and then they called it something Lizzy. And they'd get out there and they parked it between their house and our house in that little space there. And they'd get out there and work on that old Lizzy, and that was a crew of boys, I'll tell you. Harry Swisher, I think he was one of them. But Sam [Patterson], Sam was going with Ellen [Swanson], and your daddy was going with Anna [Lackey], and Ed was going with Ag, and Boyd was going with Lou. Carl was just kind of jumping around from one to the other. He couldn't get settled. Yeah. Chewning: You mentioned the house next to you. You mentioned Letha Swisher. Marjorie Chittum: Letha, uh-huh. Chewning: Was she a Swisher before she got married? Marjorie Chittum: Yes, she was. She was Mr. Doc Swisher's daughter. Do you remember Doc... Chewning: No, I don't. Marjorie Chittum: No, you wouldn't. Like my aunt used to, we'd go up to my aunt's in Delaware and my Uncle Ray would be asking me, after he got up in years, he'd be asking me if I knew So-and-So over at Raphine which he didn't realize it was back when he was growing up. And my aunt would get so aggravated. She'd say, "Raymond, you know Pooky's not that old. She doesn't know those old people." And he just couldn't realize how much younger I was than he was. Now, I lost my train of thought now what I was telling you about. Chewning: Letha Swisher's father. Marjorie Chittum: Oh, yeah. Doc Swisher lived out on Walker's Creek out in there where the Pooles lived. The thing that I remember mostly he drove a big cattle truck, a big truck, and had to have animals, cattle, I remember him. And her brother was Marie Swope's brother. I mean, her husband. Now let me see, wait a minute, Marie Swope was a Swisher. Okay. Letha's first husband, Carl Swisher, was Marie Swope's brother. So Letha was a Swisher and married a Swisher. Chewning: Oh, I see. Marjorie Chittum: That's how that was. Chewning: And Marie Swope was a Swisher? Marjorie Chittum: A Swisher, uh-huh. And they lived – [Marie Swope’s dad’s name was Mr. Dan Swisher.] They lived on the left hand side just before you turn off of the Brownsburg Turnpike to go to Decatur. Make that left turn. They lived in a big farm house up there. And I don't know. I haven't been that road for a while, but I don't remember seeing that. That may be part of what Jack Heslep owns. I don't know. They may have torn it down. I don't know. Chewning: I don't remember a house. Marjorie Chittum: But it was a big house up in there. Marie and Letha's first husband were brothers and sisters, and she [Letha] was a Swisher before she married him. Chewning: And did the Swopes buy the house after Mrs. Morris left, or was there somebody in between? Marjorie Chittum: No. I don't believe there was anybody in between there. No, uh-uh. Mrs. Morris left. She died down at Newport News. She had a son that lived down in Newport News, and they took her down there and I think put her in a private -- somebody that kept people. And she died down there and I think was maybe buried down there as far as I know. She wasn't brought back here I don't think. She had two children, a girl and boy. Georgie worked in Baltimore at a big department store, one of those big names – the May Company, or something like that. And then the other one, the boy [Clarence Morris], lived in Newport News. And then that family, I think I told you about that that family that lived with her, they stayed on there for a good while until they -- I guess that's when they sold the house. I don't remember, but I know they were -- I know they lived there a long time. I think probably they’d already moved though maybe when I got married. I believe they had. Maybe the house just sat empty. But I think the Swopes were the first people that lived in it because they did a lot of doing, fixing it up, you know. Yeah. I think they were the first people that lived in it after Mrs. Morris, after it was sold. Chewning: And do you know when Mr. Swope took over Supinger's store? Marjorie Chittum: Let me see. When I was a junior in high school it was still the farm store. So that would have been in 1946. And then I don't remember because I moved then in '47. I left in '47, so I don't remember when he took that over, when that went out of business as a farm store. Chewning: What happened to Mr. and Mrs. Supinger? Marjorie Chittum: Well, see, she was the one that ran the phone office. Chewning: Right. Yeah. Marjorie Chittum: Yeah. And I mean, I don't know, I guess they just -- both of them died. I don't know which one died first. It seemed to me like he died first. I went in there the other day -- not the other day, back it was in November sometime, first of November. I went up to Brownsburg and John Layton [Whitsell] and them -- to see John Layton and them. And I stopped at -- well, I actually went to John Layton's and I couldn't find him. Everything was shut up so I thought nobody was home, and I hadn't called to tell them I was coming. So I went down there to the antique shop and he and I got to talking, and gosh, we had a really good time reminiscing, he was asking me things, you know. And I told him, I said, "This store, I remember coming in here and the barber shop and everything looked so big, and now it looks so little." And he said, "Well, that's the way a lot of people remember things." And I could remember going in there when Bud Wade was cutting hair back there, and it looked so big in that store, and the other day it just looked like I was, you know. Of course, I didn't go down there very much because Mother didn't like for me to go in the barber shop where a lot of men were hanging out. She said she didn't want me in there. So I didn't. Just once in a while I would go in there for something. I don't know what, but I'd go in there, and she didn't want me to go in there. But I do remember going in there, I guess. I don't remember -- I remember having my hair cut, the curls cut off, and I guess Bud must have -- I don't know whether he cut them or not. Because I don't remember Mother taking me to town anywhere to have my hair cut. But I remember going home with the -- I remember not going home, but when we got home I remember Mother had this bag with my curls in it. And I remember her crying. Chewning: How old were you when that was? Marjorie Chittum: Before I started to school. Yeah, before I started school because it just got so that I cried every time she combed it because they'd get tangled up because it was all fine. But they were long yellow curls and she'd roll them around her finger and then pull her finger down. And then when I would walk, it would just flop. [Laugh] She would hurt when she'd comb it. It would hurt. And brush it, it would hurt. And getting me ready to go to Sunday school it would hurt. And so finally I just kept saying I want to have my hair cut. I just want my hair cut. I just don't this long hair anymore. I don't want these curls. And she would -- when we'd get ready to go to Sunday school I thought, well -- I guess you maybe could say I was conniver. Because I figured it out that if I stuck my head out the window of the car, or rolled the window down it would blow it all out and then it would be ugly when I got to Sunday school. So that's what I did. [Laugh] And then she said if I didn't quit doing that she was going to comb it out there, you know, and it would really hurt then. I said, "Well, I want it cut." So I guess maybe I just hit her at the right time one day, and she said, "Okay, we'll just cut it. We'll just cut it." And I kind of think Bud must have cut it because -- well, you can see, I'll show you a picture. It's chopped. It was awful looking. It was just awful looking. And then I wished I had them [my curls] back. But now I've been very fortunate because it did come back [with the natural wave and curl in it], you know, and I don't have to worry with my hair now that [the waves and curl] did come back. But everybody, I mean, I can remember people when I had it cut, I can remember people saying, "Oh, what happened to those beautiful curls, those beautiful curls?" Chewning: [Laugh] Oh, my goodness. Marjorie Chittum: And I think I told you about Mr. Matheny’s shoe shop in there. Chewning: Uh-huh. Marjorie Chittum: I thought I did, but I couldn't remember what the -- I don't know. I can't think of any other really... Chewning: Well, you covered the main ones that I was really interested in. Marjorie Chittum: It was just a great place to grow up. It really was. And I still -- I tease [Mrs. Chittum’s husband] Earl now because he grew up -- well, he was actually born in Roanoke, but then they moved back here. So Raphine was his place. And so I'm always teasing him about Raphine. I say, "Raphine never ever really got off the ground." I tease him about it. I said, "Everything in Brownsburg's being restored and it's so pretty. They're going to have a museum, and..." Chewning: We'll let people from Raphine come and visit. Marjorie Chittum: Yeah. In fact we were with Ann last night, Ann Lothery, and Earl said something about -- we were talking something about Brownsburg and he said, "Everybody wants to come to Brownsburg, don't they Ann?" She said, "That's right." Yeah. Chewning: Well, if you can't think of anything else... Marjorie Chittum: I can't think of anything else. [I want to say again I would not take anything for my growing-up years in Brownsburg. It will always be special to me.] [End of Tape] Marjorie Ann Whitesell Chittum Index A Apple Butter Making · 33 Asbury United Methodist Church Lawn Party · 41 Automobile · 78 B Bailey, Dr. Airplane · 55 Brownsburg Doctor · 21, 55 Beard, Richard · 66 Beard, Ruth Wade · 35, 65 Beard, Winifred · 65 Benson, Judy · 72, 73 Berry, Charlie · 74, 75 Berry, Hattie · 74 Berry, John · 74 Berry, Octavia · See Snider, Octavia Berry Berry, Pet Lucas · 74 Black, Anna Miller Commissioner of Revenue · 29 Blackwell, Mary Katherine · 73 Bodkin, Mr. School Principal · 27 Bolen, Bobby · 30 Bosworth, Jim · 24, 37 Bosworth, Stella · 71 Bosworth, Tom · 62 Latin Teacher · 37 Bosworth, Tommy Hampden-Sydney College · 71 Bosworth's Store · 37 Brownsburg Barber Shop · 80 Black school · 9, 47 Farm Store · 77 Health Clinic · 20 Horse Shows · 66 Ice Cream Store · 47 Post Office · 37 Saturday Nights · 21 Sears & Roebuck House · 49 Spring Water · 34 Stores · 37 Undertaker · 2 Brownsburg School Baseball · 45 Basketball · 27 Glee Club · 15, 78 Home Economics · 29 Operettas · 15 Buchanan, Estelle · 73 Buchanan, George R. · 76 Butchering · 33 C Canning · 35 Carson, Helen Watson Home Economics Teacher · 13, 29 Carter, Albert · 62 Carter, Hallie · 23, 62, 63 Carter, Hallie Mae · 23, 63 Carter, Hunter · 23, 62, 63 Carter, Louis · 64 Carter, Manuel · 23 Carter, Press · 23, 62 Carter, Roger · 62 Carter, Sam · 62 Carwell Family · 36, 43 Carwell, Catherine · 73, See Robertson, Catherine Carwell Carwell, Herb · 49 Carwell, Mildred · 36 Carwell, Roscoe · 43 Chittum, Doug Son · 62 Chittum, Earl DuPont · 12 Spottswood School · 12 Chittum, Marjorie Ann Whitesell "Pooky" · 60 Adair Hutton Department Store · 17 Basketball Team · 27 Beauty School · 17 Birth · 1 Choir and Glee Club · 27 Clothes · 26 First Grade Teacher · 18 Galoshes · 57 Marriage · 17 Mary Baldwin College · 18 Piano Lessons · 6, 25 School · 6 Virginia Commercial College · 17 Chittum, Tammy Daughter · 17 Christmas · 31, 43 Coffey, Henry · 69 Coffey, Mary Stuart · 69 Craney, Aggie · 9 Craney, Frances · See Porterfield, Frances Craney Craney, Glasgow · 9 Craney, Ruth · 9 D Davis, Mary Glenn · 43 Depression Era · 25 Dice, Hassie · 10, 31 Dice, Walter · 14 Dudley, Bill · 51 Dudley, Genevieve "Bee" · 51 Elopement · 51 Dudley, Lucian · 18 Fordwick · 52 Grandfather · 2 Dudley, Margaret · See Whitesell, Margaret Dudley Mother · 2 Dudley, Martha · 18 Grandmother · 2 Laundry · 52 Dunaway, Beulah · 60 Dunaway, Elizabeth "Doodie" · 60, 73 E Earhart, Katherine Piano Teacher · 7 East, George Killed in World War II · 30 Electricity · 42 Engleman, Hintsel · 76 F Farm Store · 37 Firebaugh, Betty Palmer · 13, 14 Firebaugh, Donald · 68, 76 Fisher, Mariah Midwife · 21, 49 Fishing · 4 Fitzwater, Sarabelle Lotts · 19 Franklin, Dan · 22, 33, 63 Franklin, Dora · 23, 54, 63, 64 Franklin, Eleanor · See Hawkins, Eleanor Franklin Franklin, Janie Bell · 67 Franklin, John · 67 Franklin, Mary Jane · 67 Franklin, Moffatt · 67 Franklin, Virginia Bell · 23, 66 Franklin, Zack · 33 Friends Lighthouse Mission Church · 38 Cemetery · 40 Hospital "William Penn" · 71 Moved to Staunton · 40 G Gibson, Sally · 15 Gilmore, Mary Brownsburg School Custodian · 47 Gilmore, Virginia Midwife · 48 Gilmore, Will Brownsburg School Custodian · 47 Greaver, Angie Margaret Wade · 12 Green, Dr. Brownsburg Doctor · 55 Green, Letha Swisher · 78 Grimm, Bobby · 76 Grimm, Hugh · 76 H Haliburton, Maggie Pleasants · 8 Haliburton, William "Dude" · 8 Halloween · 42 Harris, Margaret "Tootsie" Wade · 60, 73 Hawkins, Eleanor Franklin · 22, 66, 70 Heffelfinger, Jen Wade · 55 Hemp, Mary Stuart Sweet · 76 Heslep, Jack · 79 Hickman, Troy Killed in World War II · 30 Huffman, Clara Alice · 14, 73 Huffman, Elmer · 58 Huffman, Roy · 58 Huffman's Store · 37 Hull, Mollie Sue · See Whipple, Mollie Sue Hull J James, Jessie · 76 K Kirkland, Miss Health Nurse · 20 L Lexington Shopping · 32 Lothery, Ann McNutt · 82 Lotts, Ann · 26, 67 Death · 71 Lotts, Emma · 71 Lotts, Jess · 71 New Providence Sexton · 68 Lotts, Jim · 26, 67, 71 Beekeeper · 67 Death · 71 Lotts, John Henry · 26 Lotts, Little Nellie Death · 71 Lotts, Maggie · 43 Lotts, Mary · 25, 44 Lotts, Mary Lamb · 68 Lotts, Mary Stuart · 26, 68, 71 Lotts, Roy · 43 Lucas, Carrie Sunday School Teacher · 56 M Marchant, Eleanor Wade Sunday School Teacher · 56 Martin, Frances · See McClure, Frances Martin Martin, Frances Belle · 70 McClung, Sallie Reid Sunday School Teacher · 56 McClure, Frances Martin · 70 McNutt, Hugh · 16, 22, 31, 63 McNutt, Mr. Sunday School Teacher · 56 Medicine Childhood Diseases · 20 Miley, Annie Great-Grandmother · 2 Miley, Michael · 46 Mines, Emma · 74 Morris, Clarence · 38, 79 Morris, Georgia · 38, 79 Morris, Mamie · 21, 38, 79 Death · 38 N New Providence Presbyterian Church · 19 Bible School · 27, 56 Chrysanthemum Show · 44 Nuckols, Mary Ann · 73 Nye, Bernice Wade · 35 P Palmer, Betty · See Firebaugh, Betty Palmer Patterson, Ag Lackey · 78 Patterson, Ed · 78 Patterson, Ellen Swanson · 78 Patterson, Rosenell Math Teacher · 37 Patterson, Sam · 78 Peters, Carrie · 9, 24 Pleasants, Dickie · 43 Pleasants, Laura · 8 Pleasants, Letcher · 8 Pleasants, Maggie · See Haliburton, Maggie Pleasants Pleasants, Pitt · 43 Pleasants, Vivian · 43 Pleasants, Wynonna · 43 Plumbing, indoor · 42 Poole, Charlie · 72 Poole, Lucy · 72, 73 Porter, Susan · 22 Porterfield, Frances Craney · 9 R Reubush, Isabel Teacher · 13 Robertson, Catherine Carwell · 36, 74 Runkle, Bobby · 76 S Sandridge, Charles M. · 72 Sandridge, Mary Frances · 72, 73 Sears & Roebuck House · 49 Sensabaugh, Fred · 12 Shoultz, Frank David · 23 Side Show · 41 Sites, Isabel Stevenson · 63, 64 Sleigh riding · 43 Slusser, Bruce · 76 Slusser, George Killed in World War II · 30 Smith, Irene · 74, 75 Snider, Estelle · 75 Snider, Everett · 75 Snider, Marian · 75 Snider, Octavia Berry · 75 Staunton Shopping · 33 Sterrett, Anna Lackey · 78 Sterrett, Mc · 78 Stevenson, Pauline Stewart · 24 Stewart, Leroy · 24 Stewart, Pauline · See Stevenson, Pauline Stewart Stewart, Samuel Dock · 24 Strain Farm · 8 Stuart, Boyd · 78 Stuart, Louise Wiseman · 10 Virginia Commercial College · 17 Supinger, Osie Wade · 76 Supinger's Store · 37, 80 Sweet, Jimmy · 76 Sweet, Raymond · 76 Sweet, Winifred · 76 Swimming · 36 Swisher, Beauford · 75 Swisher, Bessie · 75 Swisher, Carl · 79 Swisher, Dan · 79 Swisher, Doc · 78 Swisher, Harry · 78 Swisher, Letha · See Green, Letha Swisher Swope, Carl · 40 Swope, Marie Swisher · 79 T Telephone service · 45 Thornton, John Lee · 76 Trimmer, Ocie · 14, 15, 19, 27, 30, 77 U Undertaking Business · 63 Caskets · 45 V Variety Show · 41 W Wade Family · 50 Wade, Bud · 80 Wade, Jen · See Heffelfinger, Jen Wade Wade, Kite School Bus Driver · 35 Wade, Margaret · See Harris, Margaret "Tootsie" Wade Wade, Mattie · 76 Wade, Osie · See Supinger, Osie Wade Walthal, Dr. New Providence Minister · 35 Watson, Helen · See Carson, Helen Watson Weaver, Elwood · 77 Whipple, Fred R. Jr. · 7, 53 Whipple, Fred R. Sr. Richmond Internal Revenue Service · 53 Whipple, Louise Tabb · 54 Whipple, Mollie Sue Hull · 6, 27, 37, 50, 53, 77 Piano Lessons · 6 White, Dr. Locke New Providence Minister · 35 Whitesell, John Layton · 2 Marriage · 35 Postmaster · 3 Singing · 15 Whitesell, Margaret Dudley · 2 Funeral Director's License · 3 Lynchburg · 13, 17 Marriage in Staunton · 52 Second marriage · 16 Whitesell, Miley L. Death · 3, 15 Father · 2 Marriage · 2 Undertaker · 2, 63 Whitesell, Virginia Wade · 13, 35, 65 Williams, Dr. Joseph · 20, 63 Brownsburg Doctor · 54 Williams, Elizabeth Teacher · 14 Williams, Mrs. Joseph · 54, 74 Wilson, Mary Lou · 70 Wiseman Family · 31, 37 Wiseman, Carl · 11, 76, 78 Wounded in World War II · 31 Wiseman, Frances · 11, 70 Wiseman, Louise · See Stuart, Louise Wiseman Wiseman, Tolerace J. · 27 Farm Store · 58 Huffman's Filling Station · 58 School Bus Driver · 11 Withrow, Margaret Ellen · 72, 73 World War II · 30 Death Notifications · 46 Radio Coverage · 31 Victory Celebration · 32 Victory Corps · 30